Comments on: The problem of (transgender) pain http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/ Life at the intersection of Church and Trans with Rev. Allyson Robinson Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:19:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Adrian http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-401 Adrian Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:10:12 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-401 I am crying as i read this. I too am a Christian who is a F-T-M transsexual. I thought I was completely alone...that there were no others out there like myself. Please pray for me. Your Brother in Christ, Adrian I am crying as i read this. I too am a Christian who is a F-T-M transsexual. I thought I was completely alone…that there were no others out there like myself.

Please pray for me.

Your Brother in Christ,
Adrian

]]> By: realboye http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-394 realboye Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:24:21 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-394 Thank you all for your comments ! Ive found it hard to feel loved and accepted in this world. As a child people were presented to me two ways male or female.For the longest i felt i was here on earth without a purpose.I have never felt female eventhough my sexual organs are. I am a male born physically female.Now at 26 years old i have finally stopped being sad and angry.GOD loves Everything GOD created including women that are men and men that are women. So therefore i feel one should live in GODS love and acceptance rather than that of the world. LOVE YOURSELF THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKED TO BE LOVED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. Thank you all for your comments ! Ive found it hard to feel loved and accepted in this world. As a child people were presented to me two ways male or female.For the longest i felt i was here on earth without a purpose.I have never felt female eventhough my sexual organs are. I am a male born physically female.Now at 26 years old i have finally stopped being sad and angry.GOD loves Everything GOD created including women that are men and men that are women. So therefore i feel one should live in GODS love and acceptance rather than that of the world. LOVE YOURSELF THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKED TO BE LOVED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.

]]> By: nirobi http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-393 nirobi Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:26:02 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-393 thank you life can be hard its good to know im not alone thank you life can be hard its good to know im not alone

]]> By: Meagain http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-378 Meagain Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:19:10 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-378 Thank you for this. It really touched me. Only recently have I discovered that God is not the one torturing me. This post reminded me of my feeling God loving me in my female essence, and how beautiful I think that is. Sometimes I think I'm the biggest mess ever- and God loves me. Thats power. Thats love that sears right through the anguish and pain. Thats true power and true beauty. Thank you for this. It really touched me. Only recently have I discovered that God is not the one torturing me. This post reminded me of my feeling God loving me in my female essence, and how beautiful I think that is. Sometimes I think I’m the biggest mess ever- and God loves me. Thats power. Thats love that sears right through the anguish and pain. Thats true power and true beauty.

]]> By: Samantha http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-377 Samantha Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:43:26 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-377 You know, I love Matthew 7. I'm a Buddhist, but there is so much in scripture of many cultures to enjoy and learn from. Plus Buddha himself points out that he is not God, he is but a man, walking the path of loving kindness on his way to enlightenment. Anyway, back to Matthew. In Matthew 7:1-8 specifically, we are taught the lessons of judgment. How important, even vital it is that we not judge others. Only our Lord God has the authority, Jesus himself admitted he could not, and would not judge others, for it was a power vested only in his fathers glory. So many people forget or ignore this. Worse yet, quite often we are give to flights of self judgment that can often be as cruel and horrific as anything someone else could do to us. My gender issues my cross to bear? I'd be lying if I'd said I never, ever thought that. But at this point in my life I've found it a gift of healing, compassion and empathy. My heart, mind and spirit have been raised up, nearer the light, the glory, for want of a cure. What I've found is this wasn't a curse, wasn't God telling me I was good only for suffering, this was a gift of humility and grace, passion and perspective, and empath and compassion for all of God's children. There are none so blind as they who would not see. I don't look to God much anymore and say God, why have you cursed me to suffer so, but instead see with eyes and heart that transcends words and dogma. The message of love, as well as loving kindness for all, is most important. This is not my first life, will not be my last, and I've learned and grown so much in this life time alone that it still kind of amazes me. God has blessed me with his light, his touch, and challenges to help me see and feel his love more. I am but a Buddha, walking a path that has no beginning, and knows no end, but is one of growth and love for all God's children great and small. Myself included. Namaste, Sam You know, I love Matthew 7. I’m a Buddhist, but there is so much in scripture of many cultures to enjoy and learn from. Plus Buddha himself points out that he is not God, he is but a man, walking the path of loving kindness on his way to enlightenment.

Anyway, back to Matthew. In Matthew 7:1-8 specifically, we are taught the lessons of judgment. How important, even vital it is that we not judge others. Only our Lord God has the authority, Jesus himself admitted he could not, and would not judge others, for it was a power vested only in his fathers glory.

So many people forget or ignore this.

Worse yet, quite often we are give to flights of self judgment that can often be as cruel and horrific as anything someone else could do to us. My gender issues my cross to bear? I’d be lying if I’d said I never, ever thought that. But at this point in my life I’ve found it a gift of healing, compassion and empathy. My heart, mind and spirit have been raised up, nearer the light, the glory, for want of a cure. What I’ve found is this wasn’t a curse, wasn’t God telling me I was good only for suffering, this was a gift of humility and grace, passion and perspective, and empath and compassion for all of God’s children.

There are none so blind as they who would not see. I don’t look to God much anymore and say God, why have you cursed me to suffer so, but instead see with eyes and heart that transcends words and dogma. The message of love, as well as loving kindness for all, is most important.

This is not my first life, will not be my last, and I’ve learned and grown so much in this life time alone that it still kind of amazes me. God has blessed me with his light, his touch, and challenges to help me see and feel his love more. I am but a Buddha, walking a path that has no beginning, and knows no end, but is one of growth and love for all God’s children great and small.

Myself included.

Namaste,

Sam

]]> By: The pitfalls of being a good Christian crossdresser | Crossdresser Heaven http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-371 The pitfalls of being a good Christian crossdresser | Crossdresser Heaven Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:59:39 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-371 [...] Again Allyson has provided some insight for us. [...] [...] Again Allyson has provided some insight for us. [...]

]]> By: Thorny Pain « TransLate http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-106 Thorny Pain « TransLate Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:00:10 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-106 [...] it, I would like to point you to an intelligent and meaningful articulation of these feelings over on Allyson’s blog, Crossing The T. [...] [...] it, I would like to point you to an intelligent and meaningful articulation of these feelings over on Allyson’s blog, Crossing The T. [...]

]]> By: JoeBum http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-96 JoeBum Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:00:56 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-96 oh wait, that's not the sermon on the mount AT ALL. not sure what i was thinking. and yeah, i'm pretty excited about my blog's new look. can i get your email joebumbulis@gmail.com oh wait, that’s not the sermon on the mount AT ALL. not sure what i was thinking.

and yeah, i’m pretty excited about my blog’s new look. can i get your email
joebumbulis@gmail.com

]]> By: JoeBum http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-95 JoeBum Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:57:27 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-95 I certainly agree that this issue is much more complex than we often paint it in sunday school. i do think there is a possibility of denying one's personality. I've heard of stories of 40, 50 year old men joining the emergent movement because they've loved to paint and the arts, but have suppressed that for years because they thought there was no place for it or not allowed in church. even the reality of giving up our wills to determine our life gets really complex. why do we really follow Jesus? or what happens when a person's personality is mean spirited or bigoted? There is certainly a call for the denial of personality there. the verses in the sermon on the mount are the most obvious in this theological discussion, but i'm not sure if they are helpful in talking about the complexities of self-denial. that said, i do affirm that God calls us often to fulfill our personalities and in so doing we can bring greater glory to him. yet, maybe there are instances when we are called to deny something about ourselves, even personality. If we're not willing to give it up, then we may find that we don't have one. I certainly agree that this issue is much more complex than we often paint it in sunday school. i do think there is a possibility of denying one’s personality. I’ve heard of stories of 40, 50 year old men joining the emergent movement because they’ve loved to paint and the arts, but have suppressed that for years because they thought there was no place for it or not allowed in church.

even the reality of giving up our wills to determine our life gets really complex. why do we really follow Jesus? or what happens when a person’s personality is mean spirited or bigoted? There is certainly a call for the denial of personality there.

the verses in the sermon on the mount are the most obvious in this theological discussion, but i’m not sure if they are helpful in talking about the complexities of self-denial.

that said, i do affirm that God calls us often to fulfill our personalities and in so doing we can bring greater glory to him. yet, maybe there are instances when we are called to deny something about ourselves, even personality. If we’re not willing to give it up, then we may find that we don’t have one.

]]> By: Allyson http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-problem-of-transgender-pain/#comment-89 Allyson Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:25:04 +0000 http://crossingthet.wordpress.com/?p=69#comment-89 Thanks so much for your comments, everyone. Joe, the question of self-denial is an incredibly complex one, isn't it? It's certainly more complex than I've often heard preached and taught. If taken to the logical extreme, what does it require? Suicide, perhaps? No one's preaching that, thankfully. So then, is Jesus calling for the repudiation of personality, or of certain aspects of personality? (Is it even possible to "deny" one's personality?) Or is he calling for the repudiation of personal desire, or of certain desires? Given the context, it seems to me he's calling for us to set aside our right to determine our own destiny and accept the role God assigns to us in the establishment of the kingdom. Check out Matthew 16:13-28 and tell me what you think, would you? Thanks so much for your comments, everyone.

Joe, the question of self-denial is an incredibly complex one, isn’t it? It’s certainly more complex than I’ve often heard preached and taught. If taken to the logical extreme, what does it require? Suicide, perhaps? No one’s preaching that, thankfully.

So then, is Jesus calling for the repudiation of personality, or of certain aspects of personality? (Is it even possible to “deny” one’s personality?) Or is he calling for the repudiation of personal desire, or of certain desires?

Given the context, it seems to me he’s calling for us to set aside our right to determine our own destiny and accept the role God assigns to us in the establishment of the kingdom. Check out Matthew 16:13-28 and tell me what you think, would you?

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